Adsense Nonsense or Dell Hell 2.0

I’ve been interacting with Adsense customer service for a week now, and I empathize with Jeff Jarvis’ Dell Hell saga and the resulting frustration that he must have felt. I know I’m frustrated. After a full week of email exchanges (there is no other method provided to contact Adsense), I’m turning to my blog in the hopes that someone at Google might be listening just as Jarvis did with Dell two years ago.

Guy Kawasaki wrote a post analyzing the performance of his blog over its first year called, A Review of My First Year of Blogging. One of the measures Kawasaki examined was his Adsense performance. What was significant in that bullet was not his reported low CPM, but this aside:

(This assumes that I can get Google to pay me. I’ve tried several times during the year to get my snail mail PIN so that I can get paid, but I’ve never received it. I don’t mind Google getting the float…)

There was an update which stated that the Adsense Product Manager, Rob Kniaz had read the post and Kawasaki’s problem was resolved fourteen hours following his post about it. I’m no Guy Kawasaki, and I don’t have his audience reach, but with that sort of responsiveness can you blame me for trying after a full week of Adsense Nonsense?

I’ve used Adsense on mobilejones.com almost from its beginning. Many bloggers, myself included, thought if we receive a bit of revenue for something that we were doing anyway, all the better. I never went into the Adsense relationship thinking that it would provide me a living, but heck, something is better than nothing. I allowed my tiny ad revenue to collect at Google, and finally when I had a purpose for it, on May 15th 2007, I requested my first check to be mailed and simultaneously changed my address to ensure the check would arrive at my current residence. That’s where the trouble started.

I read all of Adsense’s FAQ docs and even watched a video on the payment process and checked my account which showed my first Adsense check was processed on May 25th and should be on its way. Two weeks later, I checked in with Adsense and noticed that the address my check was mailed to was the old address I had updated on May 15th. I checked my Adsense account information and the new address was displayed. The problem must be simple to resolve, I thought, afterall, this was an error by Google. I thought wrong.

According to the Adsense help files, if you must request a reissue of a check, you must wait until one month following the release date of the check, request the reissue, and wait for the next month’s check cycle for payment to be made. Some quick math in my head and I realized that my check wouldn’t be released to the correct address until July 25th. More than two months from the time I requested it. That’s bureaucracy that would make the government blush. (okay, maybe not)

Of course, since the problem in my case was created by Google there must be an expedited process. Wrong, again. My email exchanges with Adsense customer service were professional and pleasant on their side, but my ability to gain the attention of anyone other than anonymous emailers felt like insult to injury.

I assured that my “feedback” would be shared with the “appropriate people.” Hello! This is a problem created by the company not feedback, and if you can share my email with the appropriate people, then why not share me with the appropriate people and give me a way to contact them. I was told the following:

I understand that you would like to be able to contact a particular AdSense specialist directly. In order to protect the privacy of our employees, Google’s policy doesn’t allow the release of contact or personal information for any of our specialists.

I appreciate your understanding.


To which I replied:

No, Suzie. I don’t want to talk to Adsense specialists. I want to talk to their managers, directors or VPs. I do believe that Adsense owes me this much after destroying our business relationship. Can you do that? Or does policy require that you blow off (ignore the requests from) a customer who is so clearly mistreated and unhappy?

And received this reply from payment specialist Suzie:

This privacy policy applies to other Google employees as well but please be assured that I will take the appropriate escalation measures.

Privacy? Isn’t Google a public company doing business with the public? What sort of escalation measures are involved here, given that I’ve been told there is nothing that can be done other than I wait another month for a payment requested and processed on May 15th? Suzie had instructed me that there were no expediting processes available to her, so what is there to escalate? From Suzie on July 2nd:

Thanks for your reply. While reviewing our system, I have confirmed that your address was changed on May 15th but was not properly updated in our system until June 15th due to a technical delay. I apologize for this inconvenience.

Please be assured that the process to have your payment credited back to your account and issued again has been started. Although I would like to expedite this process for you, we only issue payments on a monthly basis. I appreciate your patience.

Why should I have patience? And 2 1/2 month’s worth of it? So let’s rewind.

  1. You’ve told me that the error was an Adsense technical problem.
  2. You’ve told me that there is no expedited process for correcting the problem. I must wait until Adsense reaches its check issuing cycle.
  3. You’ve told me that I can’t communicate with anyone else or anyone higher up at Google, because it’s a privacy issue for Google employees.

So, what is there to escalate? Suzie did have some advice for me, though. Her recommendation:

One way that we’re improving our payments system is offering the Electronic Funds Transfer payment option (EFT) to more publishers. EFT is a payment option that allows you to have your AdSense payments deposited directly into your bank account at no additional cost. With EFT, there’s no risk of having a check lost in the mail and you don’t have to wait for a check to clear. Within about 10 days after a “Payment in Progress” line appears in your AdSense account, you should see your earnings credited to your bank account.

Okay, so I’ve let my Adsense account accumulate at Google for a year. The first time I request payment, Adsense has a technical problem and doesn’t recover from the system fault for a full month. My address change was processed on June 15th although it was submitted on May 15th. And now, I’m suppose to give Adsense access to my bank account? You can’t be serious!

Suzie,

Thanks for your note, but I, now, have no confidence in Adsense and, therefore, wouldn’t let the system near my checking acct…. There’s no reason to expect that some technical glitch from Adsense wouldn’t screw up my bank acct., if it can’t recover from an address change. I find that prospect too frightening to consider.

My first communication with Suzie following her admission that indeed the error was created by an Adsense technical error provides the best summary of how I continue to view this situation.

Thank you for your diligence and honest reply. However, a system that can’t recover from faults isn’t a working system. What if Google’s search engine experienced a fault and couldn’t recover for a month or two? How many customers could Google retain with that sort of performance?

I find you’re inability to expedite my payment not as your fault, but a systemic fault which renders Adsense unreliable. What a shame that this is my first and last experience with Adsense [payments]. Customer service that is incapable of dealing with corner cases (especially those it creates) is no service at all. It is my view that you should be empowered and should have the ability to run this issue up the chain and get it resolved. You are, afterall, the face of Google to me and other customers. tsk, tsk, on Google.

Darren Rowse, author of the excellent Problogger blog, responded to Kawasaki’s conclusion that Adsense wasn’t a good solution for bloggers with a post prophetically titled, Does Adsense Suck for Bloggers? Well, Darren, for this blogger…it does suck. Not because of the low income involved, but because getting service including the service of getting payment is just not reliable.

As I explained to the first customer service person to email me from Adsense, I finally requested payment from Google because I had a use for the money. I need to buy a car. I planned to use my little Adsense check to add to a down payment for a car. No Adsense check, incomplete down payment, equals no car. The impact for me in this event is real and significant. Google…are you listening?

UPDATE:  Today from Forbes.com, If Trust is Lost, Google Will Crumble.   Money quote:

Google’s business model is built on trust. If users’ perception of the company changes, its business perspectives and profits will come under threat.

15 Responses to “Adsense Nonsense or Dell Hell 2.0”

  1. Anne Says:

    Interesting, I’m also finding impossible to contact Google about a lost check and I’m not talking about only a 100… this is a big check, after receiving my payment the check was paid in to my bank, receipt given and kept a photocopy of the check… just in case. It’s been a very stressful journey ever since as the check never appeared in my account and after a months investigation by my Bank they are unable to locate the check! I’ve tried to contact Google to put a stop on the check, but repeatedly failed and just get into their loop of returning me to their help page which doesn’t answer my question. I’ve now filled in their form for a check re-issue, I was told it would take 48 hours for a response, its been 5 days now and not one word from them, no confirmation, zero! How is one to know if my request is being actioned by Google, do I need to do another re-issue or wait another month before doing so…. pretty hopeless account customer support. I suppose I will just have to wait another month to find out unless someone can give me Matt Cutts email address perhaps he can put some pressure on for Google to talk to their account customers particularly in the case of possible fraudulent issues and lost payment checks.

  2. Lou Abel Says:

    I had a small blog on blogger and thought I’d try adsense. After 2 years, I finally got a payment next thing I know they’re accusing me of click fraud — think I was earning a lot??? Heck no. One 100 something check! Big deal. But I was due another one and do you think they paid me? Heck no. Profits were down for adsense and adwords so I guess they went after all us little guys who got a big hundred dollar check figuring none of us, like me, would have the power to do anything. But they kept the money from my blog’s legitimate clicks. That’s cheating and stealing! And they don’t even let you log back into your account so you can see what happened. They just say your guilty and you have no way to prove otherwise. I thought in this country we were innocent until proven guilty. All I got was lousy form emails, not even a real name attached. I don’t even think real people work at google, just enough to send out lousy form emails and most of the time if you get a real one in english whoever writes it doesn’t understand english and sends a bunch of unhelpful stuff that doesn’t make any sense — like at amazon, but that’s a whole nother story.

  3. Martin Naughton Says:

    I have the exact same problem. I started using google adsense in november. they said that they would issue a pin to me. But i never got it. Now they will not show any ads on my site now because i have not got my pin. I had all the information right since the start of the sign up.No customer service to check what has happened. i am worried that i will lose all the money i have made. Is yahoo ads worth doing instead of google adsense. If the problem is not solved soon then i will switch to yahoo.com ads.

    I have lost faith in google.

  4. Bill Burke Says:

    For Twitter fans everywhere, there is now a really cool app., that allows you to “leave your Twitter a voice mail”- and it get’s posted as a Tweet via speech recognition!
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  5. jez Says:

    hey,
    at least you got a reply at all, they seem to ignore me for days. yiks,
    thanks for sharing your insights!

  6. Michele Says:

    Google’s customer service has to get better! It can’t get worse, or can it?

    Your story reminds me of the problems I had when trying to contact Urchin shortly after the Google takeover - total nightmare

    Michele

  7. Mushfiqur Rahman Says:

    I also have a video games blog and am using adsense. I still haven’t requested payment and let my adsense earnings accumulate, so will Google mess up my check? Now I’ve lost all faith in them.

  8. ibby Says:

    I have noticed that Google does not seem to do customer service. About a year ago, I was working for a large company which I shall call JoJo just to conceal it’s name. JoJo wanted to integrate Google Earth with some of JoJo’s software. JoJo would have been willing to pay Google a lot of money (maybe a million, maybe more) for this integration. I was asked to contact Google and see what they would charge. It was difficult to find the right number to call and when I did get the right number, my messages were not returned. So I quit trying.

    Google is very successful and in their primary business, they don’t want to talk to their customers, so I think that great customer service is not part of their culture and maybe it never will be.

  9. Andre Says:

    Dude, Whilst I understand your frustration, you are sounding a like a whiney little kid. They issue cheques once a month, build a bridge and get over it. How much money are we talking here? Its not like you can’t pay your rent or something. Big organizations are inefficient but I gotta say I was kind of stunned to see you change your address and immediately after send a request for payment. Just asking for trouble.
    Personally I think you are making way too much of this.

  10. mojo Says:

    Hi Matt,

    Thanks very much for your consideration. I hope that Adsense management will find my experience instructive, and find ways to deliver customer service that serves.

  11. Matt Cutts Says:

    Hey, I’m a software engineer at Google. I passed this post on to some folks on the ads side to ask whether we can do anything faster.

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